Showing posts with label online dating. Show all posts
Showing posts with label online dating. Show all posts

Debate: Tinder

By Jake and Glenn

Tinder, like Plenty Of Fish and Silk Road before it, has revolutionized online dating.  Dispensing with the well thought out religious-based personality matchmaking of sites like EHarmony or the crude religious-based sexual matchmaking of JDate, Tinder allows us to interact while simultaneously embracing both our most base and most romantic natures.  People that in a previous generation would have been consigned to a sanitorium for the rest of their lives can now “swipe right” and enjoy the same thrills of despair and rejection as people without crippling social anxiety.  Today Jake and Glenn return to the debate forum with a long awaited dialogue on online dating app Tinder.  Please don’t “swipe left.”

Jake: After my marriage fell apart like a house of cards or, rather, like the Netflix original program House of Cards, Tinder was the first place I turned to find a date. As a non-drinker, it can be difficult to meet a person to spend time with in a romantic way.  Plus, as a man who is not a rapist, I would never have sex with a drunk person unless they had given me consent while sober. This is why Phi Beta Pi revoked my membership, even after I had paid my dues and purchased 30 togas. Tinder has allowed me to swipe right into dating without having to leave the comfort of my favorite crying chair.

Glenn: I love that there’s an app that allows you to directionally swipe with your obese thumb, but I can’t support Tinder.  Tinder is an app that forces men (and presumably women) to make snap judgments on other people not based on their religion or where they went to college but purely on looks.  For a burn victim like me, this is a harrowing prospect, but I’m also not sure what it says about our society.  A perfectly respectable site like OKCupid, which I’ve used to date several Roma women, was already effective for meeting people.  You answered a few questions, gave a sperm sample, uploaded a shirtless picture and you were ready to go.  It was simple, but detailed enough you could judge on personality too. With Tinder, it’s only one picture that most people will swipe away but the ugliest among us will swipe right into their hearts.

Jake: I have learned several shocking things from Tinder (JFK's involvement in the moon landing, the ending of Princess Diaries 2, and who assassinated Bruiser Brody), but the most shocking thing I have learned is that I am fairly handsome. After being with a closeted lesbian for ten years, this was a truly shocking revelation. Though, the most attractive woman I have went on a date with I met at the comedy club after she had an anxiety attack when Heywood Banks made fun of her for finding his gentle guitar comedy boring. My point is this: Tinder can boost your self esteem based purely on looks.

Glenn: I feel for people with low self-esteem.  Although it’s not an issue I face, I understand the appeal of an app that makes you believe other people think you’re hot.  But what about those who you swipe left for?  The obese, the chronically engaged, the beef eaters?  What of their self esteem?  Recent statistics show that the vast majority of suicides stem from users not getting chosen on Tinder.  “A small price to pay for my own happiness!” you might exclaim while roughly chewing on a delicious roast beef sandwich from Hardee’s.  But most people don’t want any more blood on their hands than what they already have from participating in the meat-industrial complex.

Jake: The only roast beef I will be chewing on, sir, is the kind that sits between a lady’s legs.  This type of lady is the type I will meet on Tinder.  I will swipe right on the app and then swipe my tongue across her glistening pussy.  All of the HPV in the world can’t slow me down.  Yet, as the only writer on this site who has not contracted HPV, I do feel left out.  Tinder is fun.  It’s a game where you swipe people according to whether or not you would want to make love to them.  Then you talk to them and ask them if they’re going to catfish you.  If they say they’re not going to catfish you, you meet up with them and give them oral sex.  Then neither of you ever talk to each other again.  It’s the perfect system.  There’s also a chance that you might get your first kiss and that would be pretty neat-o.

Glenn: I too would like to have my first kiss.  For all the cunnilingus I’ve performed (and, arguably, received) I’ve never actually had that experienced so beautifully dramatized in Drew Barrymore’s hit film Never Been Kissed (1999). My debate opponent previously stated that the best looking human who agreed to a date was from real life, not Tinder.  But what would she have done if she saw you wearing a tuxedo shirt and novelty eyeglasses?  Swiped left, like an Arab man wiping his anus. I used to go on Hot or Not in the early 2000s and rate all the beautiful people as 1s and the ugly people as 10s.  Although I was on the site because pornography didn’t exist, that righteous feeling of righting what god did wrong sustained me through a very dark time.  Let that be a word of warning: the next person who swipes you right may be doing it for the wrong reasons.

Missed Connection


By Bub


I check Craigslist’s ‘Missed Connections’ regularly.   Not every day.  But, most days.  A lot of times they are very entertaining.  ‘You have decided to open your heart to true love, and something amazing will happen tomorrow at four p.m.’ It hasn’t as far as I know, but who could turn down such an exciting promise?  I also have an account for an online dating service.  I even pay for their premium service - it allows me to look at women’s, and girl’s that are legally allowed to participate in such a service based on the internet’s code of confidence for online dating profiles, without them knowing.  I essentially pay for cyber-stalking privileges.  But I rarely use them.

I don’t get the same rush or satisfaction that I get when I check the Missed Connections on Craigslist.  This confounds me because the online dating site has put me in contact with several objectively beautiful, well-adjusted women with great senses of humor and graduate degrees.  It has made my match several times, better than I could have ever done independently.  But somehow it seems insufficient. On the other hand, I have never even come close to being the one ‘missed’ in a missed connection. Or have I?  I don’t know!  That is the allure – no matter the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, I can convince myself that the anonymous person reaching out to the tall person with the absurd hat that happened to ride the same subway I did was actually talking about me.  They were so enamored with my charms that they took the ridiculous step of reaching out to the ether in hopes that their love of me would be requited. 

That simply means more to me than someone seeing an embarrassing picture of myself in various states of undress asking about my work experience.  I think perhaps it is because I need to physically sense the undying sadness in someone and also the defiant optimism that refuses to see the worst in the world and continues to naively choose to assume the best, because those things tangibly permeate other people.  That is a quality that an online dating profile is incapable of expressing.  Even in those exact terms.  I know, because I have tried!

But it is a quality that is readily ascertainable on a bus when the girl with the crocheted mittens lost in her own thoughts reflexively gives up her seat to an elderly man when he accidentally bumps into her knee.  I want to meet that person as a result of something I did of equal insignificance in the course of being myself.  There is no dating algorithm for that.

There is no magic list of television programs or ethnicities of foods one enjoys that can express the same amount of information about someone’s character.  I am certain that some serial killer or at least a mass murderer genuinely appreciated ‘Arrested Development’.  Your shared affinity does not waylay my concerns.  And I know that many indicted war criminals share my love of Cambodian cuisine, specifically the heads of the genocidal Khmer Rouge that have yet to be brought to justice.

Alas one can only hope in their search for true love for a missed connection. Were you the short brunette on the bus last night that kept eying my bag full of sambal oelek?  If so, marry me?  Or at least write an equally cryptic post in my honor on Craigslist?

Love,
Bub

What Should I Wear on My Date?

By Keelin

Friends, if there's one thing I don't understand, its how to pursue and find true love. I go out, I even occasionally meet members of the opposite sex, sometimes I even go to these "bars" you people love so much. Still, romantic success has eluded me much like that road runner eluded that cartoon coyote, leaving me to fall off the proverbial cliff over and over again. (That metaphor has so many levels.)


But, big news! I have a date. Yes, a date -- an interaction with a man involving alcohol and conversation. It's going to be fantastic. Now that the plans have been made, there is only ONE thing left to do: decide what to wear. Here are the choices:





1. I don't know if you guys have heard, but Miley Cyrus has a clothing line at Walmart! And if there is anyone I want to look like as a woman of almost 30, it's Hannah Montana. Speaking of which, how awesome would I look in this vest ($12) and these shorts ($5)? The vest says business, the fringe says fun! Miley sure knows what American ladies want. In case it gets cold, I'll bring this shiny coat along ($25). Party in the USA!



2. Mormon underwear (Price Unknown) is another option. There's something intriguing about a lady in a religious garment. Does she love God? Is she a hipster wearing it ironically? Who knows -- until you get to know her, that is. Which you definitely will want to do. A lot.



3. And you can't go wrong with a muumuu (Price varies). This loose-fitting dress will have men guessing whether you are fat or pregnant -- or both! -- all night long.



4. Ha, Miley again! She is so good. This dress ($6) says, "I like cheap Chinese textiles and flashing my underwear." So classy.

Sh*tting On ... Online Dating!

By Ingrid

Back when I was 22 and turning down three, four marriage proposals per week, I never could’ve imagined that I would one day join the ranks of sad losers who rely on the Internet to find a date. But guess what? That’s just what happened! I graduated college, moved to a new town, and – lo and behold! – found it impossible to meet people. After a couple months of no marriage proposals (not even dinner-and-a-movie proposals), I decided to sign up for an Online Dating Service.

Full disclosure: I have had extraordinarily bad luck in this venture, so perhaps it is unfair for me to be “Sh*tting on…Online Dating!” Much like literal shit, however, it’s not always possible to keep the figurative shit from exploding forth into the world. I recently decided to pull my profile and focus on meeting people the old fashioned way (barn swings, church socials) because, although I was receiving plenty of bites, most of those bites were creepy or obese. Of the three men I did end up going on dates with, one was still undergoing a messy divorce, two were noncommittal regarding their views on reproductive rights (I DEMAND TOTAL COMMITTALITY REGARDING REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS), and all three turned out to be emotionally stunted.

Oh, well. Ignore my obvious bitterness and read on!
***

To illustrate the complex and frequently uncomfortable world of online dating, I’ve included some excerpts from messages I actually received, as well as some advice to those of you who insist on signing up for a dating site despite my heartfelt warnings.

Message #1

Here is a series of incomprehensible instant messages that showed up in my inbox. I have yet to decipher what, exactly, they mean.

flyfisher: agnostic-talk? Eating some garlic we could start, but which type of garlic?
flyfisher: older then 30, sorry and good luck ciao
flyfisher: morning West Coast woman
flyfisher: not online, awe it would be interesting hearing from you
flyfisher: but you seem indisposed or away
flyfisher: send a message when you're free and can talk
flyfisher: Rowdy


Note to Prospective Online Daters: If the object of your affection doesn’t reply after the second or third IM, they are either not there or IGNORING YOU ON PURPOSE. Maybe because you’re 34 and won’t leave them alone!

Message #2

Theking7782: I admit I'm a geek, and that's a good thing. I notice that you take pride in intelligence also (you didn't come right out and say, but it's there between the lines). That's why I decided to drop you a line.

This guy lives in his mother’s basement and wears Dragonball-Z shirts and thinks that I do, too. He didn’t come right out and say it, but it was there between the lines. That’s why I decided to not reply.

Note to Prospective Online Daters: Don’t call yourself a geek (or asshole, or anti-social, or proud parent) in your opening message, even if you are one.

Message #3

Trig101: I'll be honest, I'm kinda disappointed you haven't replied. I'm not going to harass you or anything. You're profile makes you sound very cool since you like riding your bike, the vegetarian thing, and that you're smart enough to make it to grad school.

Well, thank you for calling me smart, Mr. Trig (although “making” it to grad school doesn’t take a lot of smarts these days – just the economic means to delay entering the workforce for another couple of years), but NOT thank you for getting hostile when I didn’t immediately reply to your message.

Note to Prospective Online Daters: if you start nagging before you’ve even met me IRL, what is it going to be like when we’ve been married for 30 years?

Message #4

Steveiscool81: hi! i havent been on here in a long long while and saw your pics and thought you were very attractive little "veggie girl". lol. i am a meat-eater myself...i belive eating red meat stimulates the growth mechanisms in the brain to make your brain well... grow. hahaha! Im just kidding, im a real asshole lol. I’m really great guy to be around, i make mostly everyone happy with just my presence. im a high school dropout but you wouldnt know unless i told you. anyway, i think ive said enough lol.


Because the thing that every “veggie girl” wants to hear from a prospective suitor is that 1) he is not only a meat eater but a vehement meat eater, 2) he’s a real asshole [“lol!”], and 3) he’s a high school dropout, but you wouldn’t know it by his lack of punctuation or his inability to end a sentence without laughing out loud.

Believe it or not, I had more than one meat-eating conservative type send me a message telling me that it was “cute” that I was a “little hippie/veggie girl/environmentalist.” I resent the fact that one of my most conscious, deliberate lifestyle decision has been reduced to nothing more than an adorable little quirk. Obviously if I thought it was important enough to mention in my profile, I am looking for a man who shares the same beliefs, not one who will chuckle dotingly every time I order a burrito minus the beef.

Note to Prospective Online Daters: Never belittle your potential date’s passions and interests.

***

Whew. Those are pretty bad, huh? Imagine how I felt upon reading them. There were countless other ridiculous messages from slavering fools begging for sex, but I didn’t include them since this is a fairly Christian family site.

The bottom line, readers: everyone (including me) who uses an online dating service is flawed in some way. If there’s one painful lesson I’ve learned during my short stint as an online dater, it’s that people who date online usually do so because they lack the basic human components that allow them to connect with others IRL. I would recommend that you run away before you meet a flawed f*cker who cheats on you, lies to you, and/or threatens to take away your reproductive rights.

I realize now that if I had just endured a few more weeks of loneliness instead of signing up for Online Dating Service, I would’ve eventually met a perfectly nice man IRL or, more realistically, gotten back with my ex for the millionth billionth time. Nothing wrong with that!

/sh*t

Quit Shitting On...

By Glenn

Like sailors, we at OYIT are not afraid of cursing or attacks from sea-based monsters. Neither the s-word nor a giant squid strike fear into our hearts, and hopefully not in yours either (for those of you who still have them). The term to "shit on something" means to put it down, to malign it and in general to do the rhetorical equivalent of defecation. It's easy to shit on things that deserve it, such as the show Kath & Kim, any Weezer album after Pinkerton or the atrocious Lieberman-Graham amendment in the recent war supplemental. In this series, however, I will defend things that I find - either amongst my friends, amongst my enemies or in the world at lage - unfairly shat upon.

If you think that a personal conversation with me is the inspiration for a specific defense, you may be right. But you also might have just reminded me of indignation that I earlier felt. In other words: don't take it personally.

Quit Shitting On...

...California. After Iowa's Supreme Court decided that their Constitution allowed for same sex marriage, a lot of people started to make the case that "Iowa is more liberal than California" or that California should be ashamed of itself for Prop 8 and the repercussions while Iowa was now a beacon for progressivism. Iowa, I've visited California. I know about California. I've seen California pass more progressive legislation than almost any state in the country. You sir, are no California. Keep in mind that it was the PEOPLE of California that passed Proposition 8 and it was the SUPREME COURT of Iowa that allowed same sex marriage. I've also lived near and spent much time in Iowa and if it was put up for a statewide up or down vote, a Prop 8 would have passed with much more than 52%. I'm not trying to shit on IOWA either, because compared to Missouri it is California. But, let's keep things in perspective here people. California, for all of its budget woes and its history of electing shitty governors, is much more progressive than Iowa.

...Twitter. The structural limitations of Twitter are obvious: you can only use 140 characters. Beyond that, it can be as strong or as weak of a social media tool as people make of it. If you don't want to see tweets about what people are eating for breakfast or word of mouth review of the Pixar movie "Up," then don't follow your friends. If you don't think you have anything to tweet about, you may not. But trying never hurt anything. Just glancing at my Twitter page, I see the following tweet:
KansasJackassRT @themadvoter: This is priceless: the RESPONSIBLE white separatist movement condemns Holocaust Museum shooting: http://bit.ly/IpJfE #p2
3 minutes ago from TwitterFon
This is from a progressive blogger in Kansas, who I choose to follow for a whole host of complicated reasons. He doesn't tweet about rush hour traffic (something I've been guilty of several times), but rather passes along an interesting link he found in a humorous manner. I already covered some of this in my piece on how not to act like you're 45+, but it need to be said again: shitting on Twitter because people tweet stupid things is like shitting on email because 60% of it is spam. Yes, 60% is a true figure - I saw someone tweet it.



I was going to do online dating, but I'll wait on that for now. If you have further suggestions for things that are being shat upon and might need some defending, please tell me. And don't say Dick Cheney.